![]() What was that process like? Anthony Russo: It was extremely challenging in some ways. This is one of the biggest movies that Netflix has ever made, and you worked on it during a pandemic. Joe Russo points away from Ryan Gosling, who points at Joe Russo. I think with music, for us, we go through a big process of discovery about what feels right in the film. #Billy gets grounded movieThere’s this adage that we’ve always loved: You make a movie three times over - when you write it, when you shoot it and when you edit it. But oftentimes, when we get into post production, things change for some reason, and the movie starts to come together in different ways, and the movie’s kind of asking for different things. So it takes a long time with music, because sometimes you have something in your head going in, which we often do. ![]() And we go through a process where we look at the movie in a million different ways and kind of tear it up and put it back together in different ways. We like to try things on set, we like to try things in the edit room. How did you choose the song that their relationship pivots around, Mark Lindsay’s “Silver Bird” ? Anthony Russo: We love music and we tried a lot of music. One of the things about his performance that struck me was that obviously he’s very grim and he’s got a mission, but he also has that relationship with Claire. We were really grateful that he stepped back out on a movie set for this. And one day, Ryan looked over at me while we were looking at one of the sets, and he said, “You know, it’s been almost four years since I’ve stood on a movie set.” And I was like, “ Oh my God.” That blew my mind. At some point just a couple weeks before, we were spending more and more time on the sets. But you know, to your point, it was really a poignant moment for me during production. It has a high degree of difficulty, and it’s very challenging. And I think we all had that approaching this movie, including Ryan. I think we’re all at our best when there’s a little bit of nervousness or a little bit of fear in terms of what we’re trying to attempt. And I think the opportunity to do something so different from what he’s done before was very exciting to him. He’s constantly looking to push himself and challenge himself and grow. How did you go about luring him back to join your all-star cast? Anthony Russo: I think the fact that Ryan hasn’t done something like this before was probably the thing that lured him the most. Ryan Gosling has not appeared in a movie in a few years. ![]() How the actor went from The Mickey Mouse Club to The Gray Man. We wanted to make a movie that was just relentless action beginning to end, where a character just didn’t have time to breathe and the audience didn’t have time to eat their popcorn. This is kind of your classic movie where the hero has to run a gauntlet through the film and hopefully survive it. But there’s certainly movies that were touchstones for us in terms of films like Ronin or Die Hard or The French Connection. So we designed the DNA of the movie to try to be unique and different from a lot of the things that we love in the genre. Were there any spy-movie inspirations on this one? Anthony Russo: Because this genre has been popular for so long and is so well loved by audiences, really the challenge for us with this movie was bringing something to the table that was new to the party. ![]() When you were making Captain America: The Winter Soldier, you talked about Three Days of the Condor as an influence. So it’s really illustrative of who he is as a character as well. It also illustrates how noble his goal is and how noble a character he is because he’s willing to endure so much punishment to save someone he cares about. So it’s really important to us that the Gray Man collects damage as the movie progresses. ![]() It increases the stakes for the audience, and it gives you a real sense of jeopardy. How did that element change your approach here? Joe Russo: and I really like characters that take a lot of punishment throughout the film and, in fact, may die by the time the movie’s over. Ryan Gosling really takes a beating by the end of it. Obviously, you two have made action movies before, but there are no superpowers in this one. Court Gentry (Ryan Gosling) stakes out a scene. ![]()
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